x=sym(rand(round(randn))); min(x); %proposed method for min

Discussion in 'MATLAB' started by John Creighton, Jun 12, 2004.

  1. Bellow is the method I propose MATLAB should adopt for min:

    Not that this will not work in MATLAB (R12.1) if Y is not
    empty because in this MATLAB you can not have objects of type sym that
    are greater then 2 dimensions. When mathworks changes this (if they
    haven't already, it should work in all cases).

    function Z=min(X,Y,I)
    % MIN Smallest component.
    % For vectors, MIN(X) is the smallest element in X. For matrices,
    % MIN(X) is a row vector containing the minimum element from each
    % column. For N-D arrays, MIN(X) operates along the first
    % non-singleton dimension.
    % MIN(X,Y) returns an array the same size as X and Y with the
    % smallest elements taken from X or Y. Either one can be a scalar.
    % Example: If X = [2 8 4 then min(X,[],1) is [2 3 4],
    % 7 3 9]
    % min(X,[],2) is [2 and min(X,5) is [2 5 4
    % 3], 5 3 5].
    % See also MAX, MEDIAN, MEAN, SORT.
    % Overloaded methods
    % help SYM/min.m
    % Note that future versions well check to see if x and y are real and
    if they
    % are not the magnitude will be taken
    if (nargin>1)&(length(Y)>0);
    if nargin~=3;
    if length(I)==0; I=1; else I=I(1); end
    S2=S; S2(I)=1; Z=sym(zeros(S2));

    i=1; j=1;
    while j<=prod(S2)
    if (mod(i-1,DI2)+1)==DI1;
    if DI1~=1; i=i+1; end
    function y=minI(x);
    for i=1:length(x)
    y=sym(maple(['min(' y{:} ')']));
    John Creighton, Jun 12, 2004
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  2. John Creighton

    Steven Lord Guest


    This is for sym objects from the Symbolic Math Toolbox ... okay, but what
    would you expect to be the output of these calls to MIN (before running the
    function on these inputs, please), does your function return the output you
    expect, and (most importantly) do you believe most people would expect the
    same thing you do? [The last part of that question is the kicker; I almost
    guarantee not everyone will expect the same thing you do, and I'm sure if we
    implemented this we'd hear from that segment of the population that

    syms x y
    min([x y])
    min([x x^2])
    min([x sin(x)])
    min([x tan(x)])
    Steven Lord, Jun 14, 2004
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  3. *snip*
    I know it won't give good results because I only considered the cases
    where x and y are real.
    I do believe most people would expect the same output I would if I had
    implemented all the cases.
    Maybe this is true. I am just a student studying my masters in
    electrical engineering. So I do not have experience working with a
    software design team or dealing with suggestions or bug reporting from
    the general public. But I suppose there are two main issues. The first
    issue is to try to make it as consistent as possible with the original
    MATLAB min function. The second issue is to thoroughly document any
    differences, so the public knows what to expect.

    For now I'll do the first two. If you want I will do more later.
    For all the following calls I would expect the symbolic variable
    returned to be one dimensional with the following string

    %If we make the assumptions
    % additionally(x,real); additionally(y,real) ;
    %I'd expect
    %If we make either assumptions:
    % additionally (0 < abs(x-conjugate(x))); additionally(0 <
    %I'd expect
    min(abs(x),abs(y)); % Not yet implemented
    %Otherwise, I'd expect :
    PIECEWISE([real, (0 < abs(x- conjugate (x))) or (0 < abs(y- conjugate
    (y)))],[ min(abs(x),abs(y)),min(x,y)]) %Not yet implemented
    % Note. In MATLAB (R12.1) I had some problem with piecewise

    %With the assumptions
    %addionally(x,real), I'd expect
    %unless x has the assumption
    %additionally(abs(x)>=1) then I'd expect
    %Otherwise I'd expect:
    PIECEWISE([real, (0 < abs(x- conjugate (x))) or (0 < abs(y- conjugate
    (y)))],[ min(abs(x),abs(x^2)),min(x,x^2)]) %Not yet implemented

    Obviously I haven't implemented all these cases yet. One could check
    to see if all of the variables were real and if not throw a not yet
    implemented error. I don't know if mathworks considers that good or
    bad practice. I don't really have much incentive now to work out all
    the cases in my code (although I might do it later anyway). I
    implemented the first case because I thought I might want to find the
    describing function for a limiter symbolically.
    John Creighton, Jun 14, 2004
  4. John Creighton

    Steven Lord Guest


    I understand. One of the big sticking points I see with implementing the
    relational operators or the min/max functions for symbolic objects is that
    while MATLAB's truth system (logicals) is two-valued, true and false,
    Maple's is three-valued -- true, false, and FAIL. It's the FAIL case that
    throws the monkey wrench into things and would cause the most
    discussion/confusion/frustration if we implemented these functions for sym

    Anyway, I've passed this along as an enhancement request to the Symbolic
    Math Toolbox developer.
    Steven Lord, Jun 14, 2004
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